GROVE: BEYOND THE COUCH PODCAST EPISODE LIST
Episode 1- “The First One: How we arrived here and the community we are building”.
Released Friday Nov 15, 2024
Susan and Melissa jump right in and introduce you to their story of how "Grove: A Healing Collective" has arrived where they are today. Their new name and their new environment now is more in line with the heart of the work they want to do in creating a community that values, and encourages, positive mental health.
Episode 2- “How Did We Get Here?”
Released Friday, Nov 30, 2024
In episode one you learned about where Grove is now and what they are up to - today Melissa and Susan talk about how they ended up working in therapy and starting a business! They also discuss, "is therapy becoming a more normal part of people's health journey?" (the answer is yes - and that is good!)
Episode 3- “Suicide; its heavy - but let’s talk about it.”
Released Sunday, Dec 15, 2024
Melissa and Susan venture into the topic of suicide. This time of year (holidays/winter) this can be a tough time for us - and our depression can sneak in. Talking about suicide is important - so that’s what we are doing. Crisis Lines: 988 - national emergency mental health (call or text) Text: TN to 741741; TN Crisis Line: 1-855-274-7471
Episode 4- “A personal check in: stress and anxiety.”
Released Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024
We made it through December, so maybe now is a good time to check in on our stress level. Are you heading towards burnout? What does that look like and how can we manage stress before it boils over.
Episode 5- “How is that New Year’s Resolution going?”
Released Wednesday, Jan 15, 2025
Susan and Melissa sit down and talk about what healthy resolutions look like, and what they don’t. Setting goals for ourselves isn’t bad - but we shouldn’t beat ourselves up if it doesn’t go quite as planned.
Episode 6- “Dalila Lobato - the glue that holds us together.”
Released Friday, Jan 31, 2025
Melissa and Susan are joined by Office Manager Dalila Lobato. Most people know that Dalila is the reason the lights stay on and that the practice runs smoothly. This episode is a joy to be able to check in with her and let her voice be heard.
Episode 7- “The Love Doctor is in the studio!”
Released Saturday, Feb 15, 2025
It's the day after Valentine's Day and we have the LOVE DOCTOR in the studio today. Isaac Evans joins us to talk about relationships, couple's counseling and all that goes into working with two clients at once.
Episode 8- “Loving yourself a little better.”
Released Friday, Feb 28, 2025
We decided to talk a little bit self-esteem and how we can love ourselves well. Melissa said, "How we deal with other people, many times, can be informed by how we deal with ourself", so although some people look at "showing love to yourself" as selfish - it really isn't. The discussion talks about Guilt and Shame and we talk about how those are different things.
Also - on the front end of the episode, we share a lot about the group events we have coming up. We would love to have you join us for those!
Episode 9- “Adam Heckmann - Helping Clients Do The Work”
Released Saturday, Mar 15, 2025
Adam Heckmann joins us to talk about how to listen and engage in a session with those who are sharing some deep emotions and feelings. Adam shares that clients really lead how the sessions go, and they set the pace. The truth about therapy is that the therapist isn't the one doing the work - the client is the one doing the work. "You are the expert on you - I hope to look from different perspectives and help you organize thoughts - but the work happens on the client side."
Episode 10- “The Tools Of The Trade - How Therapists Help (and some woo-woo.)”
Released Monday, March 31, 2025
We sit down today and walk through some of the most popular tools used by therapists to help their clients do the work. Therapists don't "Just Listen", but listening and prompting is a big part - teamed with specific tools that help people focus and work on their mental health. Okay - we talk about some woo-woo tools as well - we are looking at you "Brainspotting".
Episode 11- “Anne loubier- a conversation about mental health in parenthood”
Released Tuesday, April 15, 2025
Annie joins Melissa and Susan as they discuss the mental health needs of new mothers - from body image struggles to postpartum depression.
Episode 12- “Lowering anxiety in a high expectation world; parent edition ”
Released Tuesday, April 30, 2025
Susan and Melissa dive into a much-needed conversation for parents: how to manage anxiety in today’s high-pressure parenting world.
Episode 13- “Let’s talk trauma, let’s talk safe spaces, let’s talk with deon! ”
Released Thursday, May 15, 2025
Melissa and Susan sit down and chat with Deon, as he talks about how he engages the trauma experienced by clients, and helps them to process that.
Episode 14- “understanding addiction recovery in our communities”
Released Saturday, May 31, 2025
Susan and Melissa welcome Nathan to talk addiction recovery.
Episode 15- “A LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN (THERAPISTS EXPOSED!)”
Released Sunday, June 15, 2025
Susan and Melissa sit down for a discussion on what it looks like to be a therapist and what someone can expect when they walk into a session with their provider.
Episode 16- “The Mental Health Behind the Headlines”
Released Monday, June 30, 2025
Susan and Melissa dig into a variety of topics from tele-health, staying present, and responding to world events. Susan introduces a new element to the podcast where they look at some current news stories and discuss their intersection with mental health. whew... buckle in! Special guest: P-Diddy (in thought only).
Episode 17- “Emma Crabtree and making healthy career pivots”
Released Tuesday, July 15, 2025
Melissa and Susan welcome special guest Emma Crabtree, founder of Glass Tangerine, for a heartfelt and humorous conversation about her journey from being a licensed therapist to owning a successful flower shop and flower farm. Emma opens up about the burnout she experienced during COVID, the surprising leap she made into entrepreneurship, and how her counseling background still plays a role in her business today.
Episode 18- “Olivia Martin and the power of community”
Released Thursday, July 31, 2025
Melissa and Susan sit down with Olivia Martin, therapist at The Grove, to talk about the power of community, authenticity, and movement as a form of healing. Olivia shares her journey from post-grad burnout to rediscovering joy and connection through queer spaces, dance parties, and the creation of Lavender Club—a weekly arts-and-crafts gathering for queer teens.
Episode 19- “When Life Slows You Down”
Released Friday, August 15, 2025
In this episode, Susan and Melissa talk candidly about what it looks like when life forces you to pause—whether through illness, stress, or simply hitting capacity.
Episode 20- “Helping Kids Heal with Regina Beach”
Released Sunday, August 31, 2025
In this episode, Susan and Melissa talk with therapist Regina Beach about the deep impact therapy can have on children—and the adults they become.
Episode 21- “From Self-Doubt to Healing with Abby Nesbitt”
Released Monday, September 15, 2025
In this episode of Beyond The Couch, hosts Susan and Melissa sit down with their colleague, Abigail (Abby) Nesbitt, to explore her personal and professional journey into the world of counseling. Abby opens up about her early path toward medicine, her struggles with anxiety and OCD, and the life-changing decision to pursue counseling.
Episode 22- “When the Seasons Shift: Practical Strategies for SAD”
Released Tuesday, September 30, 2025
As the days get shorter, Susan and Melissa unpack Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD)—how it differs from “winter blues,” what to watch for (sleep and appetite shifts, low energy, persistent low mood), and why time change and circadian rhythms matter.
Episode 23- “Dr. D in the making: fit, community, and counseling in a small Town”
Released Wednesday, October 15, 2025
Susan and Melissa welcome Grove therapist Dessie for a conversation about therapist fit, rural mental health care, advocacy, representation, and the importance of choosing a therapeutic space that feels right.
Episode 24- “Spooky season + scared brains: why we like (or hate) being afraid”
Released Friday, October 31, 2025
Melissa and Susan explore Halloween fears, phobias, stress responses, and practical ways to work through anxiety while giving yourself permission to enjoy—or skip—the spooky season.
Episode 25- “domestic violence, power + Control, and why ‘Just leaving’ isn’t simple”
Released Saturday, November 15, 2025
A compassionate conversation about recognizing abuse beyond physical violence, understanding why leaving is complex, and finding support, safety, and dignity.
Episode 26- “burnout, boundaries, + body work: therapy meets yoga at grove”
Released Sunday, November 30, 2025
Susan and Melissa welcome Elizabeth Mountz to explore somatic therapy, yoga, sound baths, burnout, boundaries, and how the body can support emotional healing.
Episode 27- “Deck the myths: what therapy is (and isn’t)”
Released Monday, December 15, 2025
Susan and Melissa kick off the holiday season by debunking common therapy myths with humor, honesty, and a behind-the-scenes look at what counseling is really like.
Episode 28- “New year, new paths: reflections + psychedelic possibilities”
Released Wednesday, December 31, 2025
This episode explores New Year’s intentions, trauma healing, ketamine-assisted therapy, brain plasticity, psychedelic-assisted treatment, and Grove’s future plans.
Episode 29- “bees, crows, and ‘Avoid avoidance’: a winter motivation reset”
Released Thursday, January 15, 2026
Melissa and Susan welcome Sarah Campbell-Benitez to explore motivation, winter burnout, avoidance, shame-free accountability, and practical ways to move through discomfort with kindness.
Episode 30- “cupcakes, counseling, + a year that changed everything”
Released Saturday, January 31, 2026
Noelle Smith joins Melissa and Susan to share her journey from nursing burnout to becoming Grove’s beloved chaos tamer and first-stop support.
Episode 31- “pocket squares, courtrooms, + compassion: seth crabtree + Mike giaimo join the show”
Released Sunday, February 15, 2026
Melissa and Susan sit down with defense attorneys Seth Crabtree and Mike Giaimo of Crabtree + Patterson to explore compassion, accountability, burnout, boundaries, and supporting people through some of the hardest moments of their lives.
Episode 32- “the quiet work of therapy”
Released Saturday, February 28, 2026
A thoughtful conversation about feeling stuck, recognizing small signs of growth, and remembering that healing is often slow, quiet, and beautifully nonlinear.
Episode 33- “supporting the whole family”
Released Sunday, March 15, 2026
Susan and Melissa welcome Isha Chaney and Lori Chaney of Insightful Counseling to discuss rural mental health, autism support, caregiver stress, school advocacy, and building stronger resources for families in the Upper Cumberland.
Episode 34- “Can Ai replace therapy?”
Released Tuesday, March 31, 2026
Here we explore whether AI can replace therapy, discussing where tools like ChatGPT may support reflection and where they fall short of real human connection, clinical care, and crisis support.
Episode 35- “More than baby blues: what postpartum mental health really looks like”
Released Wednesday, April 15, 2026
This episode explores postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety, intrusive thoughts, postpartum anger, fathers’ mental health, and support for new parents.
Episode 36- “healing has more than one shape”
Released Thursday, April 30, 2026
We welcome Marissa Fike to explore experiential therapy, mindfulness, poetry, nature, and the many unexpected ways healing can continue beyond the therapy room.
Episode 37- TBD
Will release Friday, May 15, 2026
Episode 38- TBD
Will release Sunday, May 31, 2026
Episode 39- TBD
Will release Monday, June 15, 2026
Episode 40- TBD
Will release Tuesday, June 30, 2026